How God Made the English A Chosen People

From Pope Gregory to the monk Bede

From Bede to the English people

Henry VIII crushed the Catholic church, and 800 monasteries, in England and established an earlier church, based on the Thorn of Joseph of Arimethea, who predated Gregory/Bede and Catholicism/Rome.

Wilberforce crusade against slavery meant the English were god’s policemen, commissioned to impose moral order on the world.

WWI shook the confidence of the English: god had made the English supremely self-confident, but where was god in the battlefields of Europe?

The coronation of Elizabeth restored confidence.

Winston Churchill went to war against Germany to “save Christianity.”

Tony Blair joined the invasion of Iraq because it was the right thing to do.

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Simulated Iranian Retaliation to Israeli Attack

BLAM Ben Gurion airport GONE

BLAM Military barracks GONE

KaPOW Israeli missile launch sites GONE

Splat Netanyahu’s nickers.




Nov 10 2013

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Jewish dual loyalty and false equivalence betw zionism and Nazism

‘Forward’ columnist says ‘divided’ loyalty is as American as cherry pie



Last week the Israeli Foreign Ministry was preparing to distribute a poll to American Jews asking them to which country they would feel allegiance during a crisis, Israel or the U.S., when Prime Minister Netanyahu stuffed the survey out of concern that it would raise an “explosive” issue (as Haaretz put it). In response, Hillel Halkin stands up at the Forward for dual loyalty on the part of Jewish Zionists. “Why American Jews Shouldn’t Be Afraid to Put Israel First.”

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I believe that Louis Brandeis made a similar argument about Americans’ diverse cultural affinities in seeking to remove the dual-loyalty stigma from Zionists 100 years ago, after he was converted to Zionism.



Tribute to Justices Brandeis and Frankfurter  Nov 13, 1997 Conference of Pres. of Major Jewish Org.

A tribute to justices Louis Brandeis and Felix Frankfurter was held during a celebration of one hundred years of Zionism. Justice Breyer, Senator Moynihan and others talked about the role the justices played in the 1930s to help the Zionist movement attain a home for Jewish people.


Weiss continues:  “The poll sought to determine, among other things, which country American Jews would side with in case of a serious confrontation between Israel and the United States. As such, it was rightly criticized for conjuring up the specter of “dual loyalty” that Jews in America and elsewhere have been accused of by their enemies. There’s certainly no need to provide extra grist for the anti-Semitic mill. Yet it’s also time to stop pretending that the loyalties of some American Jews aren’t divided between Israel and America. Of course they are. There’s just nothing wrong with it — nor is there anything uniquely Jewish about this. You’ll find plenty of similar cases in other places.

The truth is that any American Jew who doesn’t care as much about a Jewish state as he or she does about the United States can’t be very identified with the Jewish people. Suppose vital American and Israeli interests were to clash. What would it mean for a Jew to say: ”I don’t give a damn what’s best for Israel. All that matters to me is what’s best for America”? What kind of Jew would that be? How deep could his or her Jewishness be said to go?

But one could ask a similar question about tens of millions of other Americans. Do Cuban Americans who have pressed for decades for harsh American policies toward Communist Cuba ask whether these are really in America’s interest? It’s enough for them to tell themselves that they’re in Cuba’s interest. Do Mexican Americans favor a relaxation of immigration laws because they think America’s general public will benefit? What they think, you can be sure, is that other Mexicans will benefit — and why shouldn’t they want them to?”

It is excellent that the Forward has run this. It is akin to Eric Alterman’s frank declaration at the 92d Street Y that he has dual loyalty (not going in for Halkin’s euphemism, divided). It’s plainly the case that many American Jews would choose Israel’s interest over the U.S.’s if the two countries clashed.

While Halkin regards that choice as just fine, the Forward opens the door on those who may disagree– citing the regressive Cuban example, or the Irish-American support for a revolutionary movement back where they came from. Or: Did the neoconservatives support the Iraq war because it was in Israel’s interest? Joe Klein said they exhibited “divided loyalties” in doing so.

Myself I believe in the honorable principle of Doykeit, hereness in the Polish Yiddish formulation of the 1900s. Yes it worked out badly for the Polish Jews, but it remains the ideal of a democratic polity.

Speaking of which, my people came from Poland and Rumania and Russia, not from the Middle East. Yet to be concerned for Israel, a place most American Jews have never laid eyes on, is in Halkin’s view to “be identified with the Jewish people.” This is the knot at the bottom of Jewish identity in our times. Marc Ellis would say that identification with the Jewish people means concern for Palestinian conditions.

 hophmi says:  November 4, 2013 at 6:05 pm

Ask this question again when Judaism is the preferred religion of an entire continent rather than the majority religion in one state.

What stupidity. Jewish-Americans take an interest in Israel because it’s where the world’s largest Jewish population is.

  1. “The truth is that any American Jew who doesn’t care as much about a Jewish state as he or she does about the United States can’t be very identified with the Jewish people”

    Absolute horseshit.

    “My mother drunk or sober” type logic should not be the main criterion for whether someone is Jewish or not.

    The Germans got over Nazism. Judaism will somehow emerge from the darkness of Zionism.

    see Norman Finkelstein on how Nazism was destroyed by destroying Germany.  Now Germany is the most morally conscious …

    •   pabelmont says:

      Recall that Nazism began with the (as it was perceived in Germany) horribly unfair treatment of Germany after WWI. Israelism (not quite the same as the various older Zionisms) came into focus by the horribly unfair treatment of Jews IN Germany. After Nazis were defeated militarily (nothing to do with the holocuast, BTW), THEN (and only then) did Germans either feel guilty as a people, or feel guilty as a nation, or feel the revulsion that others felt.

      This is a false equivalence based on flawed history.  The history is flawed because the real history is censored, by Jews.

      So, what’s needed is for a lot of Jews to feel revulsion for what Israel is doing (1948-2013 and continuing at high speed). This depends on information. IMO the morality is in place, but not the information, not the education. Jews are still in the “We didn’t know” phase, even though you’d think all Jews would know about the original 1948-slice of Nakba. But no. Big secret. False allegation. Lies, lies.

      Alterman says all the factual assertions of GOLIATH are true, but still the book is (somehow) wrong. He means that he personally or American Jewry as a group are NOT READY FOR THE EDUCATION.

      Education means to be led out. Out of darkness.

      And one CRITICAL piece of education is this: You can be guilty of failing in your moral duty IN THE PAST and still have a moral duty in the present and future. There is still time and still duty to correct the world including especially that part of the world which is “Jewish” .


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Christopher Hitchens defends Iraq War — by debasing history

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Christopher Hitchens and ___ debate the correctness of the war on Iraq.


He opens his argument claiming that If war had not been waged to remove Saddam Hussein from Kuwait, then today Kuwait would be in the possession of Saddam …


BUT he does not account for the fact that the Egyptians and Arabs had worked out a nonviolent resolution; and that


Bush administration did NOT wage war for the purpose of liberating Kuwait; Kuwait was not of concern for them.  Bush’s goal was to take the first step of imperialism.



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Clawson proposes a false flag to push US to war on Iran

h/t to Arash Bandiari at


There are two major, intertwined lines of thought that deserve thorough research:

1. How the US government has lied to the American people in order to take the nation to war — every one of the events Clawson listed was based on a lie; (see this powerful statement  — “We were lied to” says Dana Karon, re her upbringing & schooling in Israel —; and

2. Having gotten away with lying to the American people on numerous occasions over the past 70+ years, the US government no longer bothers with declaring wars:

see Michael Hayden, formed head of national security —

see “War Powers Abuse Makes Iran Conflict Likely”

see Lt. Col Lawrence Wilkerson,  “We have killed 300,000 people (in wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, based on Pentagon estimates).

see Bruce Fein, Associate Deputy Attorney General under President Reagan: “Because those deaths were not consequent to a declared war, they are murders.”

We’ve gotten away with mass murder before:  The US has hidden their crimes against humanity in prosecution of the wars that US lied itself into, namely,
– US complicity in blockade that caused starvation-deaths of 800,000 German civilians in WWI;
– US leadership in firebombing of German cities that deliberately incinerated 600,000 German civilians and destroyed 75% of German infrastructure in WWII;
– US starves to death 500,000 Iraqi civilians, 1990s;

– US kills 300,000 in Iraq and Afghanistan (and Pakistan);

– In 2008, Ephraim Sneh directly threatened to starve Iranians to death — see

– In 1992 Sneh spearheaded the effort in Israel’s Knesset to use the nuclear issue as a faux rationale for the demonization and eventual destruction of Iran; his agenda found its first legislative expression in the US in 1995 when AIPAC obtained first, Pres. Bill Clinton’s signature on Executive Orders sanctioning Iran, then developed that Order into legislation, the D’Amato Amendment sanctioning Libya and Iran.


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Shirazi versus Leveretts on De-Listing MEK Sept 2012

Some initial thoughts on the MEK being delisted

by on September 22, 2012

Adam Horowitz asked Nima Shirazi for his thoughts on the de-listing of MEK. Nima responded:

My thoughts are these:                                                                      US State Dept probably made such a decision for the following reasons:

1. The political pressure from MEK’s highly-paid lobbyists (e.g. Dersh, Rendell, Dean, Townsend, Giuliani, Ridge, Ros-Lehtinen, Mukasey, Jim Jones, Wesley Clark) was probably not as powerful a tool as the fear of these people getting prosecuted for supporting a declared terrorist organization.  With all the recent attention and mainstream reporting on MEK tactics, events and money funneled to these public figures, I think State worried about DOJ actually having to act upon its own “material support” laws (which obviously were only intended to target Muslims, not fine, upstanding, establishment scumbags like Sheila Jackson-Lee.)

2. The US and Israel are already funding, training and arming the MEK.  Delisting the group, in real terms, barely does anything in a tangible sense.  It’s far more of a de-moralizing tactic to punish the Iranian people for not doing the bidding of regime change advocates here in the West.

3. The decision may be designed to distract the Iranian delegation during its UN General Assembly visit next week.  Rather than having to focus on the obvious threats and lies coming from Netanyahu (which has been in the news so much lately that people are starting to catch on), the Iranian delegation – lead as usual by Ahmadinejad himself – will now have to address this decision all week, rather than the overhyped warmongering.

Also, an interesting element of this is that, if the US doesn’t believe the allegations about Mossad’s backing of the MEK to murder Iranian scientists, that probably means that the US believes (read: knows) that Mossad itself is responsible for the attacks (without using MEK operatives as proxies), as  revealed by Yossi Melman and Dav Raviv.

Just some thoughts…

The Leveretts were not nearly so tactical in their assessment, but a lot more passionate:

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Uri Avnery: Two-State USA? Sept 2012

Avnery’s essay is an epic FAIL.
NetanyahuA Marriage of Morons: Romney and Netanyahu

1. It is a mistake to dismiss Netanyahu as a moron.  Psychopath is the more appropriate term; psychopath with an uncontrolled nuclear arsenal with the finger of his left hand on Israel’s trigger and the finger of his right hand on POTUS’s nuclear football.
The naming of Cherly Saban to represent the US in United Nations, and the delisting of MEK from terror list, blare the message:  Americans are no longer in charge of their government. Psychopaths are in charge of the United States, not just State Department, foreign policy, but also finance, media, entertainment/mind control, communications, homeland security and press/publishing. As Jane Eisner told a J Street audience in March 2012, “we Jews are now in charge.”  (‘Forward’ editor Eisner challenges US Jews to acknowledge ‘extraordinary wealth, status and political power’)
(By the way: J-Street hangs its entire raison d’etre on advocacy — or forcing Obama to extend his efforts — for a two-state solution.  Did Jeremy Ben Ami just spend three or four years building a 180,000 member organization that provided $1.5 million to support 61 US congress candidates, all to promote a quixotic, can’t possibly happen two-state solution?)
2. But this is the more important point that Avnery made:

Quote: “The two peoples [Israeli Jews and Palestinian Arabs] have different cultures, languages, religions, historic narratives, social structures, standards of living. At present, after some 130 years of continuous conflict, there is intense hatred between them.

The possibility that these two peoples could live peacefully in one state, serving in the same army and police, paying the same taxes and abiding by the same laws enacted by the same common parliament, is nil.

The possibility that these two peoples could live peacefully side-by-side in two states, each with its own flag and its own elected government (and its own soccer team), does exist. ” End Quote ( A Message from Romnyahu 22 Sept 2012 )

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Recall in ‘Pretty Woman,’ when Gere offered to keep Julie Roberts in luxury, but not marry her, she rejected the offer:  She would still be a prostitute, the change was “just geography.”

Look at the situation of Jews in the United States. As more and more non-Jews learn about what zionists are doing to the nation [see, for example, Israel seeks war on Iran to keep lid on 9/11, excerpt below ***];  how Jane Eisner is right on the money; how US media is controlled and high offices of US government are infiltrated — Haim Saban’s wife as UN representative, fer gawd’s sake– the “truth” is going to generate an intensity of hatred between the two groups: Americans will come to hate Jews.

It is inevitable.

Some Jews know this and are attempting to end-run the situation, trying to distance themselves from the predations of uber zionists like Netanyahu, Dennis Ross, Adelson, Saban, Makovsky, Ross, Feith, Kristol, Wolfowitz etc etc. A recent column by M J Rosenberg reflects this phenomenon.
It’s reasonable that they should do so, but it won’t work: a mob aroused does not make distinctions. Masters of mass propaganda know this, and Freud & Bernays introduced the concepts of mass propaganda.
So right here in the good ole USA, we will eventually have an atmosphere of in-group (Jews, according to Eisner) vs out-group (everyone else, especially ‘WASPs’) hatred comparable to Jews vs Arab in Palestine/Israel. The only thing different will be geography.

When that happens, and it will, would Avnery propose a “two state solution” for the USA?

Do Jews get New York, Boca Raton, Chevy Chase and Bethesda and non-Jews get Idaho, Camden and S Central LA?

Where do the walls get built in Two-State USA?
Who controls the military in Two-State USA?
Who controls the financial system in Two-State JewSA?
Who controls the skies in Two-State USA?
Who controls communications, trade, borders, law enforcement, judicial system, political system, legislatures in Two-State JewSA?

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*** Israel seeks war on Iran to keep lid on 9/11:

“Netanyahu needs the 9/11-triggered 100-years-war on Islam to continue for the very good reason that if it does not, the State of Emergency still in place in the US will be lifted, and Americans, unencumbered by the National Security restrictions of wartime, will quickly learn what really happened on September 11th, 2001. That possibility poses a very real existential threat to Israel – and to Netanyahu.

As Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Strategic Studies at the US Army War College, told Press TV: “I have had long conversations over the past two weeks with contacts at the Army War College, at the Headquarters Marine Corps, and I have made it absolutely clear in both cases that it is 100 percent certain that 9/11 was a Mossad operation. Period. If Americans ever know that Israel did this, they are going to scrub them off the earth.” And even if Israel were “scrubbed off the earth” peacefully through a one-state solution, Netanyahu would certainly hang for his role in the 9/11 attacks.

Unfortunately for Netanyahu and Zionism, Dr. Sabrosky isn’t the only US National Security insider leaking the truth about 9/11. A very large number of military and intelligence people have come forward.The two biggest recent leaks are revelations by CIA asset Susan Lindauer that the CIA had detailed foreknowledge of 9/11 and attributed the controlled demolitions of the three NYC skyscrapers to “those goddamned Israelis”; and the assertion by Gwenyth Todd, who worked beside Richard Clarke on the National Security Council, that Clarke (who was publicly fired from an earlier job for being an Israeli spy) is the top suspect as hands-on controller of 9/11 from the US end. ”

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